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[–]gwlevits2022 -4 points-3 points-2 points 16 days ago (5 children)

“Clean the church” means having a key and access to the church at all hours, which she was asked to relinquish. This is a separate case of someone demanding access to church property and simply being told “no.” Conflating it with accusations is wrong.

The contents of the original letter aren’t available, so it’s conjecture what Metropolitan Nicholas is actually replying to.

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[–]SubstantialFish34 5 points6 points7 points 16 days ago* (4 children)

> Conflating it with accusations is wrong.

I should have been more clear. This woman was banned from any participation in parish life outside of attending services, after she alleged abuse by FMW.

You can say it's not punitive until you're blue in the face, but nobody will believe you because ROCOR lies. Mancuso himself lied to a brother priest about when the allegations were received—and then had that priest lie on his behalf. Your organization will do anything but admit that they mishandled this.

> The contents of the original letter aren’t available, so it’s conjecture what Metropolitan Nicholas is actually replying to.

Due to the content of this letter, it would be inappropriate to publish in full. A summary of the letter is as follows:

Reports the abuse of her daughters—again

Details Fr. Matthew's refusal to stay away from the home, despite clear directions

Describes his unauthorized taking of children

Expresses concern that Fr. Matthew is allowed to stay with a different family with underage daughters

Begs Metropolitan Nicholas to take care of this in a way that will not be destructive to the church

Especially emphasizes that putting Fr. Matthew under monastic obedience would solve the problem of his behavior without legal intervention

So is it your position that—assuming this is an accurate summary—Metropolitan Nicholas replied appropriately?

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[–]SubstantialFish34 2 points3 points4 points 16 days ago (2 children)

https://www.vinelink.com/person-detail/offender/47389614

Safe to say it was reported.

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[–]Ornery_Economy_6592 0 points1 point2 points 15 days ago (0 children)

Regarding your post about the Romanian retired bishop, I will use the wise words of Gregory Levitsky, "You should delete this post and confess it.". Calling a retired bishop "defrocked" is surely a grave sin in Orthodoxy.

Bishop Onila was not defrocked and the Synod confirmed that he will not be defrocked. He was allowed to retire at the old age of 50 and will keep his status as a retired bishop, including his ample pension paid for by the Church and a protocol house suitable for a bishop.

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